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« Respuesta #1 : 09-10-2009, 14:22:03 »

y si Jabe, este vez es un nobel de verdad  :awep:
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« Respuesta #2 : 09-10-2009, 14:58:42 »

Me parece muy sorprendente que le hayan dado un premio cuando solo lleva 9 meses.

En fin, ellos son los que dan los premios.
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« Respuesta #3 : 09-10-2009, 15:18:25 »

¿He dicho algo en este tema para que digas eso Zarhondrer?  <_<
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« Respuesta #4 : 09-10-2009, 15:27:35 »

Me parece muy sorprendente que le hayan dado un premio cuando solo lleva 9 meses.

En fin, ellos son los que dan los premios.

Pues imagina todo lo que ha tenido que hacer en tan poco tiempo. Mediando entre los pueblos y tal...
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« Respuesta #5 : 09-10-2009, 15:36:12 »

Hombre, lo cierto es que el hombre ha conseguido que mucha gente vuelva a confiar en un líder de gobierno (aunque sea el de otro país) y que ha emprendido varias acciones dignas de loa, pero me parece un poco pronto para dar un veredicto... quiero decir que, esperar unos añitos y ver en qué se convierten esas promesas o, mejor dicho, cómo actúa él (no siempre cumplir las cosas está en nuestra mano), tampoco les habría matado...
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Esta firma es la prueba de que la dominación mundial no está reñida con el arte... ¡Gracias, Eni!

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« Respuesta #6 : 09-10-2009, 15:38:08 »

Quizás no tenían nadie más a quien darselo
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« Respuesta #7 : 09-10-2009, 17:44:44 »

Se lo dieron por ser negro. Lógica aplastante :awe:.
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« Respuesta #8 : 09-10-2009, 17:47:04 »

Yo creía que esto iba de hechos y no de intenciones.
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« Respuesta #9 : 10-10-2009, 14:49:31 »

@Reuters, por Matt Spetalnick y Wojciech Moskwa:

WASHINGTON/OSLO - Barack Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday in a stunning decision that honored the first-year U.S. president more for promise than achievement and drew both praise and skepticism around the world.

The bestowal of one of the world's top accolades on Obama, who has yet to score a major foreign policy success after nearly nine months in office, was greeted with gasps from the audience at the announcement ceremony in Oslo.

Describing himself as surprised and deeply humbled, Obama said he would accept the award as a "call to action" to confront the global challenges of the 21st century.

"I do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments but rather an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations," he said in the White House Rose Garden.

The Norwegian Nobel Committee praised Obama for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples," citing his fledgling push for nuclear disarmament and his outreach to the Muslim world.

Obama, a Democrat who took office as the first black U.S. president in January, has been widely credited with improving America's global image after the eight-year presidency of George W. Bush, who alienated both friends and foes with go-it-alone policies like the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

But critics called the Nobel committee's decision premature, given that Obama has achieved few tangible gains as he grapples with challenges ranging from the war in Afghanistan and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to nuclear standoffs with Iran and North Korea.

Obama, told of the prize in a pre-dawn call from his press secretary, now also has the burden of living up to its expectations.

The president, who will travel to Oslo to receive the award on December 10, plans to donate the prize money of 10 million Swedish crowns -- roughly $1.4 million -- to charity, the White House said.


Obama, 48, has struggled with a litany of foreign policy problems bequeathed to him by Bush, while taking a more multilateral approach than his predecessor.

Obama acknowledged that while winning a prize dedicated to peace, he was commander-in-chief of a country in two wars. "We have to confront the world as we know it," he said.

He won the award on the same day he was convening his war counsel to weigh whether to send thousands more troops to Afghanistan to turn the tide against a resurgent Taliban.

His troubles at home include a battered economy and a fierce debate over healthcare reform that have chipped away at his once-lofty approval ratings and a Republican opposition that has moved well past the honeymoon phase.

"One thing is certain -- President Obama won't be receiving any awards from Americans for job creation, fiscal responsibility, or backing up rhetoric with concrete action." Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele said in a statement.

But Obama is still widely seen around the world as an inspirational figure.

"Very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," the Nobel committee said in its citation.


Some analysts saw it as a final slap in the face for Bush from the European establishment, which had resented what they saw as his arrogant "cowboy diplomacy" in world affairs.

U.S. State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley told reporters the prize could stimulate diplomacy.

"We think that this gives us a sense of momentum when the United States has accolades tossed its way rather than shoes," he said.

Crowley's remark was an apparent reference to a December 2008 incident in which an Iraqi reporter hurled his shoes at Bush and called him a "dog" at news conference, both grave insults in the Arab World.

While the award won praise from statesmen such as Nelson Mandela, Mikhail Gorbachev and Jimmy Carter, all Nobel laureates, it was also attacked in some quarters as hasty and undeserved.

Afghanistan's Taliban mocked the award.

Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid, speaking to Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location, said it was absurd to give a peace award to a man who had sent 21,000 extra troops to Afghanistan, and Obama "should have won the 'Nobel Prize for escalating violence and killing civilians.'"

Despite declining U.S. public support for the war, Obama is considering a request for at least 40,000 more troops from his top commander, who says otherwise the mission could fail.

Nobel Committee Chairman Thorbjoern Jagland rejected suggestions from journalists that Obama was getting the prize too early. "We hope this can contribute a little bit to enhance what he is trying to do," he told a news conference.

Obama is the fourth U.S. president to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize after Carter won in 2002, Woodrow Wilson picked it up in 1919 and Theodore Roosevelt was chosen for the 1906 prize.


Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki called the award premature, but at the same time contrasted Obama with the Bush administration.

"The decision in this connection was hasty and the granting of this prize was premature," Mottaki told the semi-official Mehr news agency. "If this prize serves as an element of encouragement for the practical negation of the previous U.S. administration's war-mongering and unilateral policies with an orientation on a just peace we would not oppose it."

Liaqat Baluch, a senior leader of the Jamaat-e-Islami, a conservative religious party in Pakistan, called the award an embarrassing "joke."

But chief Palestinian peace negotiator Saeb Erekat, expressed hope Obama would help achieve Middle East peace.

Lauding Obama, U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki-moon said, "His commitment to work through the United Nations gives the world's people fresh hope and fresh prospects."

While many Americans voiced pride, some were puzzled.

"It would be wonderful if I could think why he won," said Claire Sprague, 82, a retired English professor as she walked her dog in Manhattan's Greenwich Village. "They wanted to give him an honor I guess, but I can't think what for."

Obama's former Republican presidential rival John McCain said Americans should be pleased for their president, but also insisted he now has "even more to live up to."

The committee said it attached "special importance to Obama's vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons," saying he had "created a new international climate."

On other pressing issues, Obama is still searching for breakthroughs on Iran's disputed nuclear program, on stalled Middle East peacemaking and the fight against climate change.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said he looked forward to working with Obama on peace efforts, a day after Israel's foreign minister said there was no chance of a peace deal for many years.
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@Breitbart, por Darlene Superville:

WASHINGTON (AP) - A beaming President Barack Obama said Friday he was both honored and humbled to win the Nobel Peace Prize and would accept it as a "call to action" to work with other nations to solve the world's most pressing problems.

Obama told reporters in the White House Rose Garden that he wasn't sure he had done enough to earn the award, or deserved to be in the company of the "transformative figures" who had won it before him.

But, he said, "I will accept this award as a call to action, a call for all nations to confront the challenges of the 21st century."

Obama will travel to Oslo, Norway, in December to accept the award.

Obama, 48, is the third U.S. president to win the prize while in office, after Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson. Former President Jimmy Carter won the prize in 2002, more than two decades after he left office.

In its surprise choice, the Norwegian Nobel Committee cited the president's creation of a "new climate in international politics" and his work on nuclear disarmament, even though he is just nine months into his presidency.

"These challenges cannot be met by any one leader or any one nation," the president said. "That's why my administration wants to establish a new era of engagement in which all nations must take responsibility for the world we seek."

Obama acknowledged that, while accepting an award for peace, he was commander in chief of a country engaged in wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"We have to confront the world as we know it," he said.

He said he was working to end the war in Iraq and "to confront a ruthless adversary that directly threatens the American people and our allies" in Afghanistan.

"I'm also aware that we are dealing with the impact of a global economic crisis that has left millions of Americans looking for work," he said.

"This award must be shared by everyone who strives for justice and dignity," he added.

He said that some of his goals, including that of a nuclear-weapons-free world, might not be accomplished in his lifetime:

"I am both surprised and deeply humbled by the decision of the Nobel Committee," Obama said.

"Let me be clear, I do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments, but rather as an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations."

Obama said he was aware that "throughout history, the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement, it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes."

The award took the Obama and his staff by surprise. Press secretary Robert Gibbs learned from reporters that Obama had won the 2009 prize, and telephoned the White House early Friday to pass along the news to his boss.

"Well, this is not how I expected to wake up this morning," Obama said. He described his interaction with his two daughters.

"After I received the news, Malia walked in and said, 'Daddy, you won the Nobel Peace Prize, and it is Bo's birthday.' And then Sasha added, `Plus, we have a three-day weekend coming up.' So it's—it's good to have kids to keep things in perspective."
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« Respuesta #10 : 10-10-2009, 14:57:06 »

Global leaders are obsequiously flocking to congratulate US President Barack Obama for being awarded the Nobel Peace Price for his “extraordinary efforts” to promote world peace, but nobody is aware of him actually accomplishing anything in his short 9 months in office.

The Norwegian committee which awards the prize states airily that he is being given it “for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples.”

It cities his support of nuclear disarmament (though he has not actually reduced nuclear stockpiles or combated proliferation), his concern over climate change (which he has yet to act on), and his desire for peace in the middle east (which remains unrealised).

Even supporters can be seen pondering whether it might not have been better to wait for him to have longer in office, and his political opponents in the US are infuriated by what they see as a partisan endorsement of a man who has yet to do anything more concrete than issue a series of pleasant sounding speeches.

Previously the prize has been awarded to joke presidents such as Jimmy Carter, as well as the likes of Al Gore and Yasser Arafat, causing some to wonder if the prize does not now simply reflect the politics of the awarding body and not any concrete achievements on the part of laureates.
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« Respuesta #11 : 10-10-2009, 16:05:34 »

Hombre, es innegable que el de la Paz es el Nobel más subjetivo y polémico de todos...
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« Respuesta #12 : 10-10-2009, 17:16:41 »

Cielos, vaya lapsus, lo escribí a toda leche y ni lo había mirado D:
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« Respuesta #13 : 10-10-2009, 19:00:24 »

Seguro que hay miles de personas que se lo merecen mas.
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Mas heavy que el vikingo de Manowar haciendo el caballito en Harley, lanzando hachas a dos manos bajo una lluvia de sangre...

Gracias amigo invisible!!

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« Respuesta #14 : 10-10-2009, 20:18:05 »

Yo también creo que se apresuraron... no me parece que un premio le den a alguien por "buenas intenciones" sino mas bien por sus respectivas obras... Al menos debieron haber esperado su buen par de añitos para ver si cumple con lo que que ha prometido, especialmente el retiro de tropas estadounidenses en Irak y el cierre de la prisión de Guantánamo.

Y por cierto, hola :awep: vuelvo después de cerca de 5 años al foro xD no quise hacer un post de regreso porque me dio flojera xD

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